forum  on Saturday morning, had a word of advice for Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi  Lek. Citing boxing terminology, 
 urged the MCA  president “to punch above your weight”, which means that Dr Chua had to  do better than expected.
While Dr Chua said after the “bout” that  there was no winner or loser in the “ring”, except the people, to the  disinterested observer he did indeed win the day with his better  presentation skill, delivery and unflustered manner.
, in the hour-long battle.
Lim  entered the ring with a formidable reputation as a veteran street  fighter, gained from years of lambasting MCA and 
.
Experience, however, carried the day for Dr Chua. That was the verdict of observers including some DAP leaders.
Dr Chua, a survivor of many MCA battles, spoke directly to the larger television audience. He came well-prepared.
He had also the right gestures; not grand-standing, but delivering in a matter-of-fact manner.
Lim came on stage with a public image of a debater, but left with that reputation scarred.
He  now wants a second round with Dr Chua, either in Bahasa Malaysia or  English, presumably to repair the damage received from the first debate  that was held in Mandarin.
While both Lim and Dr Chua are English-educated, moderator Tang Ah Chai was impressed by their use of Chinese proverbs.
The duo's supporters at the Berjaya Times Square hall were equally matched.
's socio-economic programme.
Instead, he emphasised how well Penang is today with him at the helm.
He  reiterated that Pakatan acted as counter-weight to the Barisan; that if  it were to take over the Government, it will deal with inflation,  remove tolls and give RM1,000 to some 2.1 million citizens annually.
He  said Pakatan would ensure transparency by revealing its  representatives' assets, have open tenders and that corruption would not  be tolerated.
Dr Chua, on the other hand, stressed that the DAP  was merely advancing causes that were dear to PAS, such as the banning  of cinemas and alcohol, and making multi-ethnic Malaysia Islamic.
He  said DAP did not dare face Umno, but pits the Chinese against each  other in all its 48 years of existence, adding that PAS would be the  real beneficiary should the Pakatan come to power because it had a  bigger membership base.
The audience were partisan to their heroes. And, when question time came, they used the session to embarrass both men.
DAP  supporters also shouted down a questioner who raised the issue of PAS  demolishing a turtle statue that adorned a roundabout after it came to  power in Terengganu in 1995.
Many were left disappointed as the  key issues of the day whether a superior two-party system will surface  after the general election and how DAP justifies its alliance with PAS  and hudud were not answered by either one.
The audience, most of whom will vote at the  next general election, has to decide if they want a DAP aligned to an  intolerant PAS that has its own narrow-world view and demanding for an  Islamic state; or a tried and tested MCA in the reforming Barisan that  advocates a secular state.
 says he did not say: “We do not agree the Prime Minister must always be a Malay because we want the people to decide”.
 had erroneously attributed the statement to him in a report during his debate with MCA 
 and also in a commentary by K. Baradan yesterday.
 is regretted.
apologises for the error.
MCA and DAP are  long-time nemeses and their leaders take shots at each other almost  daily, but this will be the first time that the respective top guns of  the two parties are taking on each other in a debate format.
Add  to this the heightened political climate and the prospect of a general  election being called this year and the stage is set for an event that  will attract the attention of the Chinese, if not the Malaysian  audience.
On top of that, these are two of the fiercest “fighting  cocks” in Chinese politics today even though they were trained in  rather sedate professions – Dr Chua is a medical doctor and Lim a  chartered accountant. Lim is famous for his street-fighter style of  politics, who hits out even before anyone tries to hit him.
Dr  Chua is an Alpha male and arguably the most aggressive president that  MCA has ever elected. He has been described as a wartime president for  his ability to take charge in a time of crisis.
Another  interesting aspect of the debate is that Dr Chua is coming in as the  perceived underdog even though he is from the ruling coalition. He does  not hold a government post and he did not contest the last general  election.
Lim on the other hand is coming in from a position of  strength as Chief Minister of Penang. He is also Bagan MP and Air Putih  assemblyman, one of a handful of privileged DAP leaders who contested  dual seats in 2008. His party has never been this strong and it is the  most powerful component in Pakatan Rakyat.
The topic has yet to  be confirmed but it will revolve around the future of the Chinese in the  context of the 13th general election. The Chinese are now the most  highly politicised community in the country and some are touting the  forthcoming debate as a battle for the hearts and minds of the Chinese.
It  is probably not that grandiose but it will be a platform for the two  men to showcase where they stand on key issues affecting the Chinese. It  will provide their audience a chance to assess their thinking and  ability to argue under the glare of the spotlight. Of course it is also  about scoring political points because the Chinese always look up to a  leader who can hit out and also take the heat.
But, generally  speaking, this sort of political debates should be a welcome development  in Malaysian politics where politicians are given the chance for their  personality to come through and more important, to demonstrate the depth  of their intellect and knowledge.
Political debates are part of the democratic process and they are a sign of a maturing democracy.
In  the United States, the debates by Republican and Democrat candidates  fighting for their parties’ presidential nomination have a worldwide  following. The debates provide a glimpse of the personality and thinking  of the persons vying to be president.
It is surprising that  there have not been more of such political debates in Malaysia because  previous events have been quite encouraging and generated a great deal  of interest. They were definitely a world apart from some of the wild  and outrageous stuff one hears at political 
ceramah.
The  most recent debate between two Chinese politicians – Lim and Gerakan  president 
Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon – was in August 2008. It was touted as  “Chief Minister versus ex-Chief Minister” and the topic concerned a  land controversy in Penang.
Another Chinese debate that took  place in the 1990s was between the then Youth chiefs of MCA and DAP,  namely Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat and Lim, on the rather plebian topic of  “Who is the political parasite?” Those who followed it said it was  highly entertaining even though it was lacking in constructive purpose  or value.
One of the most watched debates was the one between PKR  de facto leader 
Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim and then Information Minister  Datuk Ahmad Shabery Cheek in 2008 where they argued about the rising  price of oil and the opposition’s boast that if they came to power, they  would reduce the oil price the next day.
It was quite brave of  Shabery to take on Anwar given his reputation as an orator but both men  actually did well with Anwar having the edge.
The 1980s was a  period where PAS and Umno were constantly challenging each other to  debate on whose party was more Islamic; it was the era of 
kafir-mengkafir,  where each accused the other of being infidels. Umno was under a great  deal of pressure from PAS for being in a coalition with non-Islamic  parties. The big irony now is that PAS is doing the very same thing with  DAP and PKR.
But around that time, Anwar, who had just joined  Umno, had taken on PAS’ Datuk Hadi Awang on the subject at a debate  hosted by the 
Malaysian Islamic Study Group in the University of  Illinois, United States. It was a hot topic here even though it was  happening far from home.
The most talked about debate in recent  weeks is of course the one between 
Umno Youth leader Khairy Jamaluddin  and PKR strategy chief Rafizi Ramli last month in the United Kingdom.  The two Generation X politicians spoke quite impressively and in a very  civil manner on whether Malaysia was moving in the right direction  towards Vision 2020. The video on YouTube had about 64,000 views.
Khairy had also taken on PAS vice-president Datuk Husam Musa in Kota Baru in 2008. Khairy proved he was a “
jantan (manly) politician” in taking on Husam in the PAS state and won admirers from both sides of the fence.
The  Chua-Lim debate has the promise of being something quite different  given the personalities of the two men and the fact that it is taking  place at a critical intersection of Malaysian politics.
No change in debate topic   Asli: Misunderstanding led to confusion   By WONG PEK MEI   pekmei@thestar.com.my,  Monday February 13, 2012 PETALING JAYA: Asian Strategy and Leadership Institute (Asli) has  stressed that there's no change in the topic of the Feb 18 debate  between 
Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek and Lim Guan Eng.
Asli director and 
chief executive officer Datuk Michael Yeoh said they had never changed the topic “Is a two-party system becoming a  race system” to “Future of the Malaysian Chinese”, as claimed by some.
“I  think there might have been a misunderstanding. Both sides had already  agreed on this topic,” he said, in response to Lim's claim that the  title of the debate had been changed without his knowledge.
Yeoh  said the 
“The Chinese at a Political Crossroads in the Next General  Election” forum would be from 9am to 6pm while the much-anticipated  debate between the MCA president and DAP secretary-general would be held  from 5pm to 6pm.
The forum, to be conducted in Mandarin and  English, at Berjaya Times Square next Saturday, is open to the public  and entrance is free.
Yeoh said those interested in attending must call 03- 209305393 (Janet) to register.
Other  than the debate, other topics to be discussed are the changing  political landscape, the struggle of vernacular education, the social  and cultural landscape in the country and the new Chinese dilemma.
Meanwhile, 
Astro Chinese Language Business head Choo Chi Han said the debate would be  aired live from 5pm to 6pm on Astro AEC channel (301) but the channel  would begin to broadcast at 4.30pm with a pre-panel discussion.
“The  discussion will be moderated by AEC host Siow Hui Min while the guests  appearance list is yet to be confirmed,” he said, adding that the  discussion would be in Chinese.
The entire programme will be repeated at 11pm the same day after the channel's Evening Edition News.
Astro Awani (Channel 501) will also broadcast the debate, translated to Bahasa Malaysia, live. Details will be confirmed later.
Chinese voters will be more politically aware in next election, says Asli director  By NG CHENG YEE chengyee@thestar.com.my,  Sunday February 12, 2012PETALING JAYA: “The Chinese at a Political Crossroads in the Next  General Election” forum is expected to raise political awareness and  keep voters informed about their options in the next general election.
Asian Strategy and Leadership Institute (Asli) director and 
chief executive officer Datuk Michael Yeoh said the forum, organised by Asli and MCA think-tank Insap, would allow  for intellectual discussions on the future of the Chinese community and  the directions they could take in the next general election.
“We hope the forum will help people to make a more informed choice when they vote,” he said.
He  said among the topics that would be discussed were the changing  political landscape, the struggle of vernacular education, the social  and cultural landscape in the country, the new Chinese dilemma and the  much-anticipated debate between MCA 
president Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek and DAP 
secretary-general Lim Guan Eng.
Acknowledging  that the interest in the forum had shot up due to the debate, Yeoh said  it might involve heated arguments but he believed the speakers would do  it rationally.
He said Kuala Lumpur and Selangor Chinese Assembly Hall 
chief executive officer Tan Ah Chai had been selected as the moderator of the debate.
On why the organiser shot down the proposal by Lim to have former MCA 
president Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat as the moderator, Yeoh said: “We wanted someone who does not have a political background.”
The forum will also involve speakers from both sides of the divide, including MCA deputy 
president Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai, SUPP 
president Datuk Seri Peter Chin, Gerakan 
president Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon, DAP deputy 
chairman Dr Tan Seng Giaw, Liberal Democratic Party 
president Datuk Liew Vui Keong and DAP strategist and international bureau secretary Liew Chin Tong.
Others include MCA Youth chief 
Datuk Dr Wee Ka Siong, MCA young professional bureau chief 
Datuk Chua Tee Yong, DAP deputy 
secretary-general Chong Eng, Gerakan 
secretary-general Teng Chang Yeow, DAP MP Teo Nie Ching and SUPP 
treasurer Datuk David Teng Lung Chi.
Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak will deliver the keynote address on “Succeeding with Political Transformation”.
The forum, to be conducted in Mandarin and English, will be held at Berjaya Times Square next Satur-day.
It is open to the public and entrance is free.
 Guan Eng: I agreed to a different debate topic Sunday February 12, 2012BUTTERWORTH: DAP 
secretary-general Lim Guan Eng claims that the title for the Feb 18 debate with MCA 
president Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek has been changed without his knowledge.
The  Penang Chief Minister, who declared on Friday that he would take on Dr  Chua, said he did not know that the topic had been changed to the  “Future of the Malaysian Chinese”, as claimed by some.
“It is not  acceptable to talk about the Chinese community only, as DAP is for all  Malaysians,” he said after meeting Village Safety and Development  Committee (JKKK) members at the Dewan Besar Sungai Dua here yesterday.
The  debate is to be held during the “The Chinese at a Political Crossroads  in the Next General Election” forum organised by Asli and MCA think-tank  Insap at Berjaya Times Square in Kuala Lumpur on Feb 18.
The debate will be aired over 
Astro AEC.
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